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P+C Pt.3 - For What its Worth by fox-orian P+C Pt.3 - For What its Worth by fox-orian
I'm throwing in the towel on this one, guys.
Perspective & Composition Part 3 just proved to be too big of a beast to tackle in one go. The sheer scope of what has to be covered in lighting, how it works, shadows, how they work, and how to effectively use them in a scene is just too much to handle. What I got done is what you see here.

It may not be incredibly useful information, but it may still be a little enlightening to some.

Sorry that it never got finished, guys. I'd recommend looking up books on the subject and possibly doing a lot of your own field research by looking -- REALLY looking -- and playing with light to see how it works in relation to the small bit of information I have listed here.
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x-Ren-x Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2015
Lots of interesting information, and thanks for noting down some things to look up to make our understanding more complete! I'm still hoping one day you'll make the complete thing (maybe in paid video format?), but I'm also pumped to do my own research with the groundwork done! Thanks!
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umbrella4c Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014
this is helpful 
thanks so much ^^
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PrinceCaeruu Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014
Even though it's incomplete, I find it veeery useful! Thank you very much! :D
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Cykiaaa Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014
Your art really is the BEST one here in deviantart in my opinion... i think i still got 15 yrs. more to catch up to you....
i feel pathetic whenever i see your art :(
but i will never give up :3
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Ramani-Rayne Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013
Even though you didn't "finish" it, I still found this helpful, and I think it has given me an idea of where to go with the lighting for a drawing idea I've had in my head for a bit. So thank you!
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Critical-Potential Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much for the tutorials you broken down perspective down to a T and made it very understanding thank you so much.
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Cr2O3 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
thanks for doing all the work
and for posting this anyway
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Velvetrose51012 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Student General Artist
thank you for the first two tutorials especially, this one is great as well, you may have thrown in the towel but you've got me looking for more :)

thank you x
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SxxN Featured By Owner May 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
you're the god of perspective n composition on DA!

thanks!
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bladepso Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for taking the time to put this together
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BreIndigo Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Its like everything in the world makes sense now :iconmindblownplz: Thank you!
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fuegokid Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2012  Student Filmographer
Thank you for making this~
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skyramiel Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
Just a quick question:

Is there much difference between Spot light and Omni light?
I mean how their shadows affect them and stuffs...
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Kamui85 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012
Maybe it was for the better, maybe this motivates us to keep investigating on our own, I’m extremely grateful none the less, and hey, if you do finish it one day, I’d love to finish reading it!
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Archiemonty Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012
I don't see anything?, I found this thru a favorited by someone. BUT when I click on it to come here I don't find anything
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pentene Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
For me, as someone who has still a long way to go, your tutorials are such a great help. I especially loved you series on perspective and composition and although I still haven't mastered all of it, I always try to use the things I learned whenever possible.

I faved all parts, and let me just say thank you for such comprehensive and well-written "tutorials" (in reality, your tutorials encompass whole art classes) that I often recommend to friends and acquaintances.

Thank you, fox-orian, and thank you for putting up the last part even though it is not finished. Even for something unfinished, there is a wealth of information.
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IVbenjamin Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is soooo detailed! why didnt this got a Daily Deviation?!
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UsayFudo Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011  Student General Artist
Very helpful :D
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Forta-Verity-Amity Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Student General Artist
Thank you for going as far as you did. These are things I've always thought were neat when I noticed them happening, but never really thought about when they weren't
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Suijin-Studios Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2011
I was wondering where part three was. It's too bad you couldn't finish it but that goes to show why light dynamics are one of the neo-banes of the modern day artist; it's too g-d complicated.

But this, as well as your other two perspective tutes, are hands down some of the most insightful and useful things on dA. Rest assured you effort is not in vain.
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Neoconvoy Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2011  Student General Artist
Thanks!

I'm doing some scenery and backgrounds, and this is really useful.
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faye-oh-schizo Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
thankso much.. im really having trouble with lightings and shadows.. this is a big help..
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Catwagons Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
What an excellent tutorial. For additional questions, you could recommend the book "Colour and Light: A guide for the Realist Painter". It covers most of the points this guide does not, and explains the physics behind them. Thanks for this great resource, fox! :)
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DoNotFeel Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2011
This series was really nice, fox. Thanks for putting it together - definitely helped me :)
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andowa Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011   General Artist
thanks for putting this tutorial together :D it really is helpful! and any more than that would fill a book (or books ;P) thanks, too, for all the tipps you gave :meow:
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Lulie Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This tutorial series is truly incredible. Everything I see has been changed -- I can't look at the world in the same way anymore.

I love how much depth you go into about perspective, but you don't over-complicate things at all or say things not really necessary. I've never read a more comprehensive guide on composition, and the way you combine it with perspective (and shadow) just makes so much sense. I can't imagine thinking about composition without perspective, now, or vice-versa. And the idea that there can be *invisible* shadows (the tree example) was mind-blowing.

Please, please write a book continuing this series. I'd buy multiple copies. This stuff is invaluable.
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dana-redde Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You are a superstar, man. Even unfinished, this is great!! Muchas gracias!
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smileychan Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2011  Student General Artist
Finished or not, it's still a ridiculously helpful tutorial. Thanks for the work you did!
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aruzza Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
thumbs up, man
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Shufly Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2011
Usefull!
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TheComicFan Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2011  Professional Artist
Your tutorial are always appreciated (I have the perspective and composition ones printed next to my working space)
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Astral-Muffin Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Even if you didn't finish it, thanks a lot. It's always useful to read stuff about light. I feel like you can never know enough.
Just a very little detail, and of course you won't change it but I couldn't help pointing out "To the LEFT is a photo...". And talking about that photo, it's a really nice one! I never though something that looked so weird had such an easy explanation
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spankingfemfatale Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2011
Great tutorial! =D Thanks for the advice!
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Hoshihime Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
Honestly, even not finished, some of the info in this is the answer to question I've always been asking myself, but never really resolved. Thank you very much!
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FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
perspective, composition and light/shadows is such a large area to cover in "only" 18000 px height. All my respect to you, though. This tutorial is a very good start for the one who are lost in these advanced areas in art.
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TenSkies Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Student General Artist
really helped, thanks much. :)
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NotBambi Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh well, all of your perspective tutorials are still very useful and easy to follow, unfinished or not.
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ikr Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
Thank you very much for this and for always sharing your knowledge with other artists. I've read all your tutorials and they're more then useful :heart:
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ikr Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
than* ._.
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ItanHimitsu Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Student General Artist
this is great even if unfinished 8D thank you for all your awesome tutorials ^^
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Soaked-in-Matter Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow very helpful, i learned a little bit :3 um, wuda been interesting to see what wud happen if number 3 light WASNT brighter than the others :) interesting to see what shadows it wud have created and where ^^
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fox-orian Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Well, the easiest way to put it is that there would have been three visible shadows, but each at a lower visibility since they would be competing with conflicting light sources.

Think of it this way. Ever see the shadows of sports players in a stadium at night? They have like 7 shadows. That is exactly what would happen if all lights were the same brightness.
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Soaked-in-Matter Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
true. i just meant it wuda been fun to see :) becuase theres deeper shadows too, wuda been interesting, dw im not asking you to do it lol im not retarded :3 just saying wuda been interesting to see :)
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PPR88 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your tutorials are just the best. Not only do you know what you're talking about, you also manage to get the point across in a clear, reproducible way.
I hope that you will still continue with this series, because even though the information is always out there and there is no secret to it, just science, it is always nice to have someone sum it up and remind you of what you already know in such an condensed form.

Ever thought of becoming a teacher or writing books?
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nous3rnam3 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
thank you for this, i'm pretty sure you said all you needed to, now it's up to everyone else to actually with everything they learned and put it to use
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Hypermanic Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
Despite not being finished, this is seriously useful. Thanks for the hard work!
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renaclerican Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Already execellent as it is, thanks for sharing!
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algenpfleger Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Good stuff mate, great to see somebody giving thoughts to these things o_ov Listen to the man everybody, this stuff is really important D:
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fox-orian Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Hahah thanks man. I really wish I could've fleshed this tutorial out as a real successor to P&C Part 1 and 2, but augh, I quickly realized that I bit off way more than I could chew here. Lighting and shadowing are something you can write a whole book on... That's why the easiest thing to do is to study it yourself! There's a heck of a lot of abundant light out there to experiment with XD
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faunmagi Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Student Digital Artist

This was so helpful man, even if you didn't finish it! Everything was explained in a clear-cut manner and the diagrams were a good asset! (Especially for a person like me who uh, needs pictures... as I am not that good with text.)
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